I think what happens is that our kitchen art forum is in the non-mainstream end(versus sites like cgtalk, cghub, 3Dtotal).
In reference, i think in some ways, we are similar to Polycount.com. they have a extremely tight community. and their community ranges from a mature to professional artists. With that being said, I dont think by trying super hard to get kitchen to the mainstream lane will work, because to get main stream, our admin community NEEDS to be all top notch artists in their respective fields to draw in the average attention.
We only have Randis, maybe eWKn, and CGaddict as the most infamous artists in the kitchen community, but with that being said, i think we are a pretty darn good non-main stream group.
We seem to attract a good deal of starters that are either just turning 15 and found out that there are more to the internet that just porn, as well as people that had gone through art school some years back, and picking art back up.
In our kitchen chatroom, we are providing a very group environment as well as motivational mood to encourage them; to either think of art as a career, or helping them get back to there feet. I for one think that that is our biggest selling point.
But only at a fraction of millineum that these guys pop in from time to time though. So, what i think is, if we can somehow exploit that side of our community, i think we will be able to improve more at our non-mainstream community point.
We have try many contests and challenges b4, non turn out so well, b/c
our forum is non-mainstream, we dont attract as much fancy artist as the mainstream ones, and we shouldnt direct too much man power to try and force our community to move forward something that it dont want to. I enjoy putting a sort of personality to our forum. and I think our forum is a medium side empty classroom.
Most of the time, when they pop into the room, they freaking STAY in the room, or regularly pop back in, A LOT!
What we need to do is maybe find some way to show that " hi we got a classroom at room 2B, its a great place to talk about stuff, and hi we play with chalks at the board too, wanna do some quick doodle(RR) with us?"
"- Sure, why not?" they say.
And with that, we get them to enlist in our classroom. And now my mind is blank, i am done with my ranting. ^^ sowwie if i didnt offer any solution to the conumdrum. XD...
In every situation, there is Always ALWAYS a solution sitting next to it. you just gota kinda find multiple uses to get the answer. We only learn about its existence right after the answer is found..it becomes so freaking obvious that you wanna hit your self in the head ^^