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ART ADVICE

Postby STRIKER » 21 Feb 2011, 10:16

can you get good at drawing digitally and transfer it to paper? is it like you can lose all the skill you learn digitally when you wanted to sketch on paper? (not painting, just drawing)

should i practice anatomy? and why? does it hold my creativity back in any way?

how bad is drawing from real human photos if you dont have a nude model posing for you.

i know PS makes things easier, but how bad can it stunt your growth in art?

how should i practice art in general?



I really really appreciate it if you could answers these :)

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Re: ART ADVICE

Postby oren90 » 21 Feb 2011, 11:46

well for a start there is no huge difference between digital sketching and traditional sketching with a pencil like everything else the pencil is another tool that you need to work with and gain expirience with it for the most simple sketches you don't need a lot of knowledge of the tool either it be a traditional one or a digital one.

as for the anatomy question, you must learn it in order to improve your art as the human body holds a lot of knowledge that is good for all the other things you'll want to draw, like the flow of the eye through different type of lines that is present in anatomy like curves, straight lines and combinations of those, learning from life is the best way but not the only it will definitly help you understand the form better as you can see it in front of you and understand each shape you see as in photos you will not be able to turn the model around in order to understand the form and shapes you will only see it from one view and one type of lighting as with a live model you'll be able to play will light and poses pretty freely.

the best way for a beginner or more like an unexpirienced person is to grab a pencil and start drawing and after that concern himself with other medias, you need to start with the basics which are line control, anatomy, values and still lifes with a pencil and a traditional sketchbook.

good luck and i hope i answered your questions :)

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Re: ART ADVICE

Postby Mugshotpro » 21 Feb 2011, 12:26

STRIKER wrote:can you get good at drawing digitally and transfer it to paper? is it like you can lose all the skill you learn digitally when you wanted to sketch on paper? (not painting, just drawing)


There is a different technique to drawing on paper, with pencils. different tools as Oren said. you would simple need to familiarize yourself with it...that just takes practice.

STRIKER wrote:should i practice anatomy? and why? does it hold my creativity back in any way?

Only if you want to draw things that have anatomy like people, animals insects etc. if you are only drawing landscapes and machines...don't waste you time. However, I believe that your creativity is going to be "held back" unless you learn how to draw from life.
for example, if I want to draw a dragon, and just using my imagination I struggle with how to draw the scales, the wings, the horns, the body, what does the fire looks like...well then my image will look like a 5 year old has drawn it. But if I familiarize myself with drawing snake's scales, bat wings, rhinoceros horns, iguana/lizards/bird's bodies, and flames...then I have all the knowledge I need to manipulate my Dragon around real world things. and when people see it...they believe in it...and I belive in it. What's art if no one believes in it?

STRIKER wrote:how bad is drawing from real human photos if you don't have a nude model posing for you.

better than nothing. if you don't have nude models, take your sketch pad out to a coffee shop, park, pool, beach and at least get some good gesture drawings. understanding how things look in the third dimension is good

STRIKER wrote:i know PS makes things easier, but how bad can it stunt your growth in art?
 PS is only a tool. If you learn how to use it well...you can only be better

STRIKER wrote:how should i practice art in general?


Draw everyday, digitally or traditionally, it doesn't matter just do it. Practice drawing from life. Also practice just having fun, be creative and silly, pretend...draw something that makes no sense...be a kid again! because if you don't take time to have some fun...you will eventually hate art.
and last, know what it is you want to achieve with your art...dont just say "I want to be an artist"...discover what particular kind of artist you want to be. and that can guide you down the proper path.
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Re: ART ADVICE

Postby Meteorskies » 21 Feb 2011, 13:12

can you get good at drawing digitally and transfer it to paper? is it like you can lose all the skill you learn digitally when you wanted to sketch on paper? (not painting, just drawing)


You don't loose the skill. You can't be good at digital drawing and bad at traditional drawing. You can be better at one, but the knowledge you have works for both. The skill difference comes just from the difference in medium used. Take it like photography: if you have a strong sense of composition, colors and all, whether you take a photo with a digital or silver film won't make any difference on the very core of the photo. The only thing different will be how it look and how you post-work on it.

should i practice anatomy? and why? does it hold my creativity back in any way?


It depends on what you want to draw/paint like Mug said. If you want to draw/paint the human figure, of course yes you need to "learn" it. The way you learn it is up to you (life drawing, reference drawing...).
Some say the human body is the most complex thing to draw and paint, and that because it is so complex, once you know how to paint and draw it you can depict anything. I don't totally agree with that as there are many artists who are just outstanding character painters and so so environment painters, but the thing is understanding the human body would only help you understand how the things you will paint interact together.

how bad is drawing from real human photos if you dont have a nude model posing for you.


There is no bad practice. Most of us can't attend to life drawing classes, so there is no problem using photos as references. However, it appears that when using a photo you don't use the same kind of volume understanding: you see something 2D, you understand how it is in 3D, but you reproduce it in 2D, while when you draw from life, you see something 3D and have to make the effort to understand how to create it in 2D. That's not exactly the same process.

i know PS makes things easier, but how bad can it stunt your growth in art?


Trust me, Photoshop doesn't make things easier. You don't learn faster because you use Photoshop. It's just that it's much more convenient than real oil and canvas if you want to paint a lot.

how should i practice art in general?


No answer to that. Practice as you feel it fits you better. Of course you'll learn faster if you practice everyday, and I won't say it's a wrong thing to do, but personally I just draw/paint whenever I feel like to. There is no shortcut though, it will take time. There is no best way to start, you can start with Photoshop and try regular pencil afterwards, but I found it easier to get confident with traditional pencil before trying digital just because my first tablet was a Graphire and I couldn't draw properly not seeing what strokes I was drawing (problem solved now, I use a Cintiq).

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Re: ART ADVICE

Postby Luneder » 22 Feb 2011, 00:27

to get a similar effect to pencil using a photoshop I spent many weeks experimenting and even then found while it was cleaner the time it takes to get the same effect is almost double mostly because with pencil and paper it has to be almost perfect the first try while with digital you can keep correcting as you go.

here is my paper sketch http://fav.me/d2wyomj

here is a digital sketch http://fav.me/d39l35i

Really the only reason it can slow growth is how long it takes to get the drawing habits and looks you already have with traditional.

All artists must know anatomy, anyone that says differently is smoking some weird stuff. All anatomy studies or figure studies should be done with photo or real reference, without them you will not be able to tell what you are doing wrong.

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Re: ART ADVICE

Postby STRIKER » 23 Feb 2011, 14:40

thank you for the amazing replies guys!! this was mostly for my cuz, i just wanted him to understand what it takes and whats important.

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Re: ART ADVICE

Postby cgaddict » 27 Feb 2011, 09:41

I find the most success doing both traditional and digital work. Shading with a pencil for example helps you paint better digitally, as it helps you develop your sense of form quite significantly. Drawing with Photoshop is a bit more different than using a pencil (I tend to use less of my arm, and more of my wrist which isn't a good thing), but on the plus side it's much easier to get a cleaner and more refined feel than it is with pencil.

My advice for you would be to experiment using both formats to help you develop as an artist even further.

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